CSE courses resuming 1 week later

stressE laveille lexamein

note: parental advisory sa, some words may sound harsh, but was needed.

Hello, couma zot tou konE, bann zelev CSE dans uom p gagne 1 semaine conzE plis.

Mais mo ti p demann mwa, sa 1 semaine la, ki li vraiment dir?

Sa v dir ki, sa 1 semaine la, nou penkor konE ki nou bizin vraiment etudier, nou pena bann notes narien, donc, nou pou pass sa 1 semaine la gratt grattE mem la.

Mais aster, kantitE semaine seki nou pou gagnE when univ resumes for us, li pou rest pareil meme li, so instead 15 semaine, nou pou ena 14 semaine (ou bien zot pou coupe nou letemp relaxE avant bann test, zot pou prend sa bann letemp la pou fer zot cour).

B zot pensE ki, nou bann robot? sa 1 semaine la v dir boukou kitsoz, sa v dir ki dans pli tigit letemp nou pou bizin apprann PLI BOUKOU kitsoz, dans pli TIGIT LETEMP pou ena meme kantitE ASSIGNMENT, meme kantitE TEST, LAST MINUTES CHAPTERS which WILL BE INCLUDED in the TESTs.

Demann zot aster, l’annE dernier si zot ti pensE ti ena boukou stress dans dernier minute, pense bien, parseki la maniere p allE, li pou pli pire. Ki nou bann zouzou nou?

Mais non nou pa bann zouzou, zot trouve nou kouma zis 1 BATCH, we are just a fucking batch of students (for em like some cows that they need to get rid of as quickly as possible). They really don’t care about what each individual of us will be some years from now, why would they? they already have a job, a life and everything, pour eux, nou zis 1 batch, so 1 week or 2 week less from their 15 weeks li ok sa, parseki “bein bann zenfant la sippozE travay dure si zot envi reussi (pretexte ki v dir ‘i don’t care’)”.

We each care for our life after, sure enough, but do you really think those guys above think about our life after? they don’t care, we are just figures for em, en+, mo sure ki, each lecturer, zot pense zis pou zot sujet, par sa mo p rod dir ki, par exemple missiE john li montrE XYZ module, he does take some care to make it just ‘doable’ if the students works hard to succeed in whatever he teaches(yeah definitely they do want us to succeed in what they teach sa li normal), MAIS what they don’t realize i suppose is the much bigger picture, did they ever tkae into account that “NON SA ZENFANT LA LI PA FER ZIS XYZ MODULE, li fer ABC, YUI,QWE modules aussi”, koi zot pa kapav synchronize zot avec bann lot lecturer pou essaie manage how and what to give to students?

Mais non they won’t do this, they don’t care, they don’t have the time to do it, and above all, it is just too tiring to try to syncronize every test,assignments, works with the other lecturers, parseki si zot get bien, 1 time table zot pa p fouti fer bien sans ki ena bug la dans, aster, kot zot pou all gagne letemp all synchronize bann test pou nou do, zot pa pou gagne letemp! they don’t have they time at all.

Sure they do want to try to find the best way to make us learn, but definitely, we are just lab rats, zot pou experiment blah blah blah lor nou pou gettE si li work, if it doesn’t and from our feedback, zot pou essey ameliorE pou donn sa bann seki p vini aprE, but eh oh, what about us??? experiments that have failed? sure seki p vini aprE pou beneficiE de notre feedback, b nou ki pou arrive nou? nou pou plaignE aprE nou pou dir ki “aie sa pa ti fer coumsa, now those who are coming p gagne sanse ki sa coumsa coumsa coumsa, parseki nou feedback”, mais koi, zot vraiment envi rest bann dimoune ki pou plaignE sur zot sort bann zen? sa si, pa akoz li zot faute, mais akoz dimoune inn zis prend zot pou bann batch, sans ki essey pensE ki sak zenfant la dans inn bizin vinn dans luniversitE la akoz zot ena 1 reve.

monn plein moi ar sa facon ki zot p prend ou pou lab rats la.

What needs to be done:

[*]- *employ someone that can synchronize test/assignments between modules for each class. (or else someone takes the responsibility to do it, if there’s a lecturer reading this, OR [si pena kass ]would it be alright if we student decides to tell you, ‘heh sir, can you put the test on the next week, we’ve got XYZ test to do this week, or sir, plz bouzz sa assignment la par 3 zour parseki blah blah blah’, so, will you lecturer be able to do that for us plz?

koi, we’ve got 14 weeks, 4 modules par la, pa kapav fer li en sort ki a test per week (will take only 4 weeks), instead of trying to put 3 test in 2 days! (sa vraimem daprE lord ena lecturer sado, et zot pensE nou maso) :p
[free alternative: a class can through the class rep submit a possible day for a test/assignment if ever they have lots of test/assignments in one week]

[*]- How to work out questions, c plutot, “sir how do you correct stuffs”, what do you seek in answers, that would be cool if we know what the guy wants from us. Probably giving us back our papers is a good way to start, and si possible essey compare nou papier, kifer certain answers were marked as wrong, what was expected etc.. (monn bien dir SI possible, parseki sa li prend letemp sa).

[free alternative: Its already free, enfin we sure are taking the teacher's time, food/beer? no suggestion, plz suggest]

[*]- Stop giving ambiguous questions, or questions that relates to questions that has been worked in class (i mean kan inn poz 1 kestion, met tou bann detail ki kestion la dimandE), e.g si gagne 1 kestion about “write a program to do this in this language using ‘abc’ API” bein donn API la atleast, parseki, a programming language si inn fer dans class c bien, mais you can’t expect ppl to learn API, si mo rapel bien, university isn’t a place where you are taught “a specific technology in question”, but rather the idea behind things, the logics behind it (sinon li ti pou vinn 1 truque vocationel, ou plito all suivre bann cours specific a sa bann technology la). We don’t wanna become technology dependant.. c con sa.

As far as ambiguity in questions, certain questions monn trouvE ki, if you look at it from another angle, you get a different answer, if you look it at another angle, you get another different answer, so if it means that I know all the other point of view i can give any answer, then am wrong? be specific when you ask question, assume us to be like computers, give us exactly what you want, and we give you back what you want without problem, many parameters are missing in certain questions i’ve seen.

[free alternative: already free]

[*]- Did it ever occur to you that working with machines that doesn’t work is enough to put someone’s flux of work out of order? koi c vrai, to vinn dans 1 class, to sippozE p all travay lor disons serveur oracle, mais serveur oracle la down, you try once, you try twice, you try thrice, pa marsE mem, b normal to pou avoy sa ferfout, c zenfant la so faute lerla si li behind schedule dans so bann assignment? b definitivement pas, mais bien sure li pli simple pou met faute la lor zenfant la! koi, universitE pena assE kass pou donn lappareil? b koz ar bann zenfant la, we can donate machines there till our course end, c faisable sa..ofcourse aprE we take back what is ours.
[free alternative: i was mentioning about the servers, user contributed machines/servers, we take it back after our course, ask what is needed, can get machine sponsored from outside also]

[*]- ena lecture 3hr temps, non dir mwa 1 cout ou meme, ki 3hr temps franchement, ou komm 1 lecturer, ou p vraiment gagne lenvi montrE kitsoz? kass class la, fer li vinn 1hr 15minutes ou 1 truc coumsa, pa dir mank class, sa engineering tower la pa la pou narien, bour sa bann piti seki pa dans facultE engineering mais seki p fer class la ba dehor, its an engineerin facility, i have no idea what the heck are finance student doing there, we don’t get access to the law facility in the library, so why do others have to share our facility if they don’t share? bour dehor. (correct strike out by yash thanks)

[free alternative:already free]

[*]- Napa enchaine class 1 deriere lot do matelo, aret fer sa, 9-12 1 class, lerla 12:30 -13:30 1 lot class, aprE 14hr-16hr a lot class, eh ou la, ki ou p pense nou, 1. being hungry mo pa croire dimoune kapav pensE, 2. Sa 1 raison kifer dimoune bourE depi class, parseki zot inn fini plein 1 zournE bez pini coumsa, 3. Professerr la li pou assume ki bann zenfant la enkor frais li, li pa realizE ki zenfant la inn pass 1 zournE lecture avan, mais lecturer la li pou continuE metE meme.
[free alternative: already free]

[*]- It would be a great idea is we can force students to read and prepare there notes before coming to class, the lecturer ask a few questions in class (hopefully getting some 0.5 marks for questions answerred (compte li dans regularity in class), this way, class doesn’t have to be boring, we will be participating, and its not a one way lecture.
[free altrernative: damned students take your responsibility,this is for us, free]

[*]- If you can help (am saying really if.. because this is no obligation), try helping students if they come forward (don’t scare em away).

[free alternative: suggestion?]

[*]- [contributed by yash]Bein au risque de me repeter… Yearwise c ene gro problem sa… For instance… last year, ler nou al fer nou exams… nou ti ena pou kone 12 programming languages ene sel coute… Franchement… li faisable sa?! Ene solution ki mo finn souvent mentioner lor mo blog, c either go back to semester wise… or expand the degrees by 1 year, and making the number of modules per year decrease from 6 to 4…
[free alternative: we pay one more year, isn't enough? suggestion?]

Any more suggestions are welcomed. Ajoute zot suggestion bann zen, and si possible invite a few lecturer to comment. :p

So now, you have feedbacks mr & mrs lecturers, will you wait for one more year to go and to implement things after we are gone and help those who comes after us to “beneficiE” de sa? Help us, and we shall be grateful.

note: I do understand the lecturers also are human being, we students also are human beings :)

~a student who got pissed off!

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13 Responses to “CSE courses resuming 1 week later”

  1. selven Says:

    feel free to submit comments/suggestions/corrections (i know that i leave lots of typos and gramatical mistakes :p as meme monn ecrire en creole.

  2. Cindy Says:

    Well uom does not have money. Maybe they think we should count ourselves as lucky to get an “education” for “free” (almost). Or maybe we students are discouraging.

  3. ¥@$# Says:

    Hey dude, 3 hour class nepli ena now… Broken down into 2 x 1.5 hrs lectures since last year sa do… But as for consecutive lectures… Oh god… sa la mort sa… ek to ena raison, c 1 bane raison ki fer mone bourer several classes last year… To pa kav rentrer 08h30… ek fer cours non-stop ziska 13h30…

    Bein au risque de me repeter… Yearwise c ene gro problem sa… For instance… last year, ler nou al fer nou exams… nou ti ena pou kone 12 programming languages ene sel coute… Franchement… li faisable sa?! Ene solution ki mo finn souvent mentioner lor mo blog, c either go back to semester wise… or expand the degrees by 1 year, and making the number of modules per year decrease from 6 to 4…

    And yeah, i was tagged as egoistic when I said that our problems won’t be solved for us, but for the coming batches… so that they tomorrow get in front of us when applying for jobs or masters with there better Degree (thanks to us)… Nice na?… Do u perceive that as egoistic?… Yes? Ok, demain to fami pena manzer, bane la pou rappel ki grace a toi zot p gagne ene pli bon la vie ek zot pou vine nourri to fami na??? Perfect society in a perfect country in a perfect world!

  4. Mr cool Says:

    @ cindy

    being free isn’t an excuse, does being “free” means that we should accept everything??

    @ selven

    hehe couma dire vraimem tone arraZe :P

    Bon ena ene problem at uom, i believe some lecturers are forced to take to many lectures.mo comprend zotte problem et nou supportive, mais kifer zotte pas support nou when nou come foward with our problems??

    being employed by uom its hard to come complain, but we are students et uom c ene service a nou disposition.. nou ena full droit complain.. sipa pena aC class!!! kifer restrict nou ziste a phase 2.. CSe department la pli grand ki ena dan uom, class allocation ti pou pli facile et nou capave arrive a banne pli bon time table ki pas touye dimoune si nou ena plis resource ( class, labs et aussi lecturers)

    year 1 pe intake 50 zeleve .. mais dan lab floor 2 pena autant pC?
    pas dire aster letemps vine uom ki pou bizin sit 3 ou 4 lor ene pc!!
    ene tas etudiant ena laptop.. kifer pas laisse zotte connecT lor reseau ?? gagne aC lor net ou mem dolphin? Dakor pena resource.. mais mem quand etudiant pe rode amene so laptop zotte pas supportive??

    tro boucou zafer dan sa cours la.. dakor li imPortant.. si pas envi tire narnien.. just make it 4 years!!! spread the modules over 4 years.. fer banens zenfant la gagne envi apran kitsoz pas neck fonC fonC dan zotte latet.. :)

    mo ava pense penC lor la.. si mo gagne nouveau things pou add pou re comment :)

  5. Cindy Says:

    Non free is not an excuse. I was being ironic.

  6. ¥@$# Says:

    Ene zafer ki mo trouver bete enkor… mazoriT bane zelevs pa dakor ar ene tas zafer dans uom… mais zot per pou dire… akoz zot gagne per lecturer tire zot manzer or watever… pffft… Bein sa bane dimounes la pou bane dimounes ki tout le temps zot pou etre dominé… Tout le temps zot pou subir em… enfin… Kav zot sado-maso oci… Zot prend plaisir kan zot gagne dimal… Mone remarker ena ene tas coume sa ein… zot content tou zafer ki arriver… mem si sa p mette batton dans zot laroue…

  7. Cindy Says:

    What I meant was that there are no easy solutions. However in Mauritius and elsewhere generally, “whatever the question the answer is money”. This of course depends on whether you are a cynic or not. Several variations to the answer include love, god, fate and now google.

  8. 1 additional week of Holidays… Oh yeah? « Bored? Me too… Says:

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  9. csyke Says:

    hehe,
    une revolte a l’horizon? that’s good!

    but as i said earlier on some other blog, where i got *ahmmm* censored, blogging about issues is one thing… finding real solutions is another, bring it to ur lecturers, confront them, get their point of view, compromise if need be, bring it to the senate even, remember uom is not free, our parents pay taxes for us to be able to study there!

    being a student at uom is not a right, it is a privilege, we have all fought one way or the other to get there, and you are right in assuming that you deserve to get better treatment.

    but don’t stop there, if you do not agree with what ur lecturers are doing, talk to them, if they dont consider your opinions, bring it to the upper levels, if that doesnt work still, the press is here, use it, use all means at ur disposal.

    selven at least u tried to come up with some solutions and are not merely criticising that is wonderful!

    but don’t let the flame die.

    cheers
    viva revoluzione

  10. mindless Says:

    selven, ur duing a very good job, and i’m with u.. But like me, ena enkor? to conE combien ti le coeur ena dan nu classe????????? tou gagne traca tention lecturer pa done zot point!!!!

    mai ki pou fer? pa facile change zot mentaliT la!! zot prefere ramasse bez mem, mai zot pa pou ouvert la bouche.. Et to konE, manq co-operation dan sa uni la, croire moi!!

    uni la p vine plis ki bazaar.. mo mem mo pa konE lor ki zafer pou propose solution. Cindy ena raison. the prob is money man..

  11. selven Says:

    c pas lecturers ki entort, c ladministration, aprE lerla li vinn gouvernment

  12. yusha Says:

    Enfin ca meme apelle uom .. last yr i was in first year mo ti penser que mentality des lecturers li different from teacherrs mentality at school …mais pena grand difference …i have a lecturer we does spoon feedin with us … n when u contractdict wht he say or ask question to penaliser… c pathetic … enplus ene zafaire plus nisa enkor question ceki nu gagner pu class test nu gagne ca eme for assignment ek nu gagne ca eme pu final exams …. trop top ….i wonder kot problem la vini
    1- u want to do ur personal research work – to penaliser
    2- pas blier ban class de 3 hours soidisant lectures bon mo passe mo letmps dormi anyways
    3- hahaa mo ena ene lot lecturer plus top enkor li donne nu livre pu faire photo actually li pena notes narien …when she comes in class she read the notes again ena ban imbecile passe 3 hours to copy notes ki nu ine fini faire photocopy ….” uom student “

  13. selven Says:

    Yushai have a lecturer we does spoon feedin with us … n when u contractdict wht he say or ask question to penaliser… c pathetic … enplus ene zafaire plus nisa enkor question ceki nu gagner pu class test nu gagne ca eme for assignment ek nu gagne ca eme pu final exams …. trop top ….i wonder kot problem la vini
    Sa meme ki mo trouve sa bizarr ki lecturer la mem creer kestion.

    Yusha1- u want to do ur personal research work – to penaliser
    uom sux

    ena ban imbecile passe 3 hours to copy notes ki nu ine fini faire photocopy
    Same in my class!

    lol
    +sel

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